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Re: baby ugly duckling 2CV 1:8

Postby Wolstantonian » Fri May 25, 2012 11:28 am

Just seen your note, Astons, on the DB5 thread about this 2CV build of yours – fascinating to see your photos of the parts received so far and how they compare with the DB5 model.

The packaging is much better with the 2CV and, from your descriptions, the amount of heavy metal parts and the detailing (proper functioning windows!) are superior.

My best experience of 2CVs – two of my friends had these cars and a whole group of us travelled down to Glastonbury Festival (1986) in them – really memorable!
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Re: baby ugly duckling 2CV 1:8

Postby baby_astons » Fri May 25, 2012 2:43 pm

casp + w_a, it's a real fun car to drive in spite of it's 28,5 BHP (I'd even say it's quite OK for a 604cc engine) -
quite a forgiving little beast, never had winter tyres for it (not even here in austria), and if you keep the big flywheel turning it's hard to beat you driving around the city or on a winding road -
just keep the revs up (it'll turn over 7000 as max HP is reached at 6750) and go - not easy to turn over as well, the following shot is only a thing of confidence
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...and I even did it without wearing a helmet...

casp, the suspension (springs and dampers are placed laying longitudinally below the doors on the real car) will be working but they made up a concealed inboard pair of springs for front and rear,
suppose this could be changed if one would replace the "dead" pushrods by working units and place a spring within the empty cylinders - let's see...

ah, yes, should start taking the weight of each metal part as there's no weight I could find -
maybe I should inspect the instructions closely...
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Re: baby ugly duckling 2CV 1:8

Postby baby_astons » Fri May 25, 2012 5:29 pm

as we have arrived at issue #10 I took shots of the booklet instructions,
which - in my opinion - dwarf gefab's efforts - again...

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it's not some computer graphics that you get here, it's a proof that someone really was able to build the actual parts,
you see what you get, they provide a drawing where the parts will go and you see pictures of the build +
where the actual build will show up on the finished model,
and this is how every issue looks like, leaving no guesswork or doubts...
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Re: baby ugly duckling 2CV 1:8

Postby casper » Fri May 25, 2012 8:30 pm

Been doing my homework :)
great little car.
Can you use 1/8 RC car springs for the "dead" pushrods or can the kit ones be bored out for springs.
The instructions do look good astons, very informative with great photos. I,m loving this kit.
I love the 1939 Citroen 2CV Prototype, the bonnet with all the sheet folds looks amazing. I believe it was hidden along with most of the others from Hitler.
My father had a Citroen DS in the sixties, it was like a space ship to a five year old :oops:
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Re: baby ugly duckling 2CV 1:8

Postby baby_astons » Fri May 25, 2012 8:53 pm

oh those were the days - I had two of the "sharks" as they nicknamed the goddess here -
(the french pronounced DS like deesse for goddess),
the CX which I owned later on was a fine car but no match to the DS (except for the engine)...
:cry:
oh well, maybe you've seen it, the 2cv used a "cannister" below the doors that contained one single spring -
which was actuated by two pushrods from the front/rear wheel, so when one wheel compressed the spring the second wheel had a harder time to compress the spring - a very simple but effective and clever way (made up before the war, imagine that!) of making an "interactive" suspension with one wheel compensating the motion of the other wheel... each wheel had a separate damper though, also laying below the doors fore and aft of the spring cylinder housing...

the cylinder on the model could easily be replaced by a brass cylinder containing a spring (would probably need to test a few setups to find out the necessary spring rate depending on the weight of the ready model) and modified actuator pushrods would do the job as well - a very very challenging mod :whistle:
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Re: baby ugly duckling 2CV 1:8

Postby baby_astons » Mon May 28, 2012 5:47 pm

now onto finishing the parts count for the engine:

#11
induction + exhaust
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all plastic parts finished in the proper "as new" colour - how about modding??
one could cut off the exhaust pipes, assemble the pot and paint over the seams and re-assemble...

#12
ignition + carburator + starter + magneto +air filter, etc
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nice plastic parts, as before...

#13
coolong fan + casing
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again, everything finely detailed (including a gorgeous mesh)...

we've now got all the parts for the engine, so I'll take a break off showing the parts as they arrive and try and finish the cute 2 cylinder -
as I have said in the initial start, we got the chasis as #14, spot on to mount the finished engine if we wished so...

now:
as the brake discs are plastic parts covered by an etched metal part (including circular grooves) which started to come off in a few spots I decided to take the etched parts off and re-glue. imagine my surprise they are great from the back side so a short term re-route was on the plan and I sanded the surface and glued everythign back with the grooves hidden. now the discs look like the real parts, a shiny and a bit scuffed surface, look for yourself:
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parts before and during assembly...

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a comparison of the grooved (and painted) side + the sanded new face...
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Re: baby ugly duckling 2CV 1:8

Postby Mark » Mon May 28, 2012 10:13 pm

Nice work Astons. I'm afraid to admit, the car doesn't do much for me, but I'm really impressed with the parts supplied. I could even be tempted to by the set (if I could find one)
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Re: baby ugly duckling 2CV 1:8

Postby baby_astons » Mon Jun 04, 2012 11:10 pm

onto a bit of modding the (otherwise nice) brakes -

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as one can see, the clearance between the brake disc and the calipers is quite large - started making up brake pads ->

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assembled (but yet to be painted) pads and first mock up of brakes with clearance filled with new pads :)

once this is assembled I'll fabricate a clasp like the one holding the pads on the original -
now maybe also onto the smaller hand brake pads...
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Re: baby ugly duckling 2CV 1:8

Postby casper » Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:56 pm

so much better astons, excellent mod.
Painted up and all the clasps etc fitted it will look great.
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Re: baby ugly duckling 2CV 1:8

Postby baby_astons » Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:33 pm

:D especially as the 2cv's brakes are inboard and visible - most other brakes are hidden behind the wheels...
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Re: baby ugly duckling 2CV 1:8

Postby baby_astons » Thu Aug 09, 2012 6:17 pm

the tiniest bit of progress here:
other projects needed much attention, but at least I'm a step further with the assembly of the brakes:

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finally got to painting the finished brake pads, next pieces will be the hand brake pads...
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Re: baby ugly duckling 2CV 1:8

Postby Andrewyzfr6 » Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:59 pm

Can the 2cv be bought anywhere complete do you know BA?
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Re: baby ugly duckling 2CV 1:8

Postby baby_astons » Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:37 pm

unfortunately no andrew, just an altaya partwork in france & spain (WHY spain.......?????)
and unlike in the UK with the 007, they haven't invented :twisted: bay yet or every subscriber is a hardcore fan, no parts whatsoever around...
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Re: baby ugly duckling 2CV 1:8

Postby Andrewyzfr6 » Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:51 pm

Thanks, has the 2cv been fully released in France? Or could I buy it from altaya in France up tothe current release point? Thanks for any help!
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Re: baby ugly duckling 2CV 1:8

Postby baby_astons » Thu Aug 30, 2012 3:32 pm

andrew the series is still running in france and spain, they must be around issue #65+ of 100 by now -
I would have subscribed immediately but they don't send to abroad -
(shouldn't the EU do something about these issues?? there are no borders they say and they are busy issuing laws about what shape bananas and cucumbers should display),
if you have a friend over there try persuading him to buy the issues for you, I'm just in the process of doing the same, hopefully with a bit of luck -
I'm really fed up with watching :twisted: bay where they don't appear, or just once in a while - have made an offer for 20 issues, we agreed and the seller never again answered to claim his money... :?
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Re: baby ugly duckling 2CV 1:8

Postby markus » Sat Dec 08, 2012 7:18 pm

fantastic build, hats off.. 8-)

if they ever release a vw beetle like that i will definetly go for it...
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Re: baby ugly duckling 2CV 1:8

Postby Mark » Sat Dec 08, 2012 11:09 pm

I would too, but I'm not holding my breath :lol:
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Re: baby ugly duckling 2CV 1:8

Postby baby_astons » Sat Dec 08, 2012 11:37 pm

indeed mark, better not to! an original beetle would be lovely too -
and with unlikely things released in recent times, one can only abbreviate 007 - never say it's impossible... or it might get expensive :mrgreen:

which gets me to think I'd need to update here a bit with more pictures... :oops:
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Re: baby ugly duckling 2CV 1:8

Postby Andrewyzfr6 » Wed Dec 12, 2012 11:51 am

A mk1 golf gti would be what id like. Another possible would be a mini cooper/coopers (Not that its a favorite of mine, but it would be popular, as would a mk2 rs2000)
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Re: baby ugly duckling 2CV 1:8

Postby Andrewyzfr6 » Wed Dec 12, 2012 11:51 am

Id still buy this 2cv if i could! Is it near end in france yet?
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