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Amusing Hobby E-100 Waffentrager

Postby snapdragon » Tue Mar 05, 2019 2:03 pm

Hi Folks,

Something a bit less technically Challenging now with Amusing hobby's W-100 Waffentrager.

WoT players will probably be familiar with this beastie as a Tier 10 tank smasher with a 4 or 5 round autoloader depending on the gun mounted. It was removed from the game after players who could not figure out just how to deal with this thing winged and complained until it was removed. The real fact that a skilled player could decimated the opposing team but only with proper support from their own team as the gun shield was paper and it took an excessively long time to reload which was when it was vulnerable.

A lot of players who can't be bothered to get out and into archives call this a fantasy tank lashed together by Wargaming and in certain respects they are right.


In reality the E-series was being designed by Adler as a takeover from all the vehicles being built for the german military and the idea was to consolidate all the vehicles onto one chassis with different weight classes and types from APC through to SPG. Two, possibly 3 E-100 hulls were under construction and captured by the british. While one was more or less complete and you can find photos around the net:

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The second one was quite a way from being complete:

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The third one, of which only 1 photo exists in German archives is a mid engine version but was just an empty hull at the time of capture. I have seen the photo but for some reason I was refused permission to make a copy!

With the allies advancing, Adler destroyed much of their design work and only a few concept drawings for the various E-series vehicles exist. No engineering drawings or blueprints made it into allied hands and all the surviving stuff was bundled up and put away out of sight by the allies.

These concept drawings can be seen, but not copied in German archives.

This leads us to this kit. Original concept drawing show the 128mm mounted as a mobile Flak fun with the options of a PAK variant and dual 128 mount on the E-100 chassis. Similar concept drawings for the 88mm on the E-75 chassis and 20, 37 and 57mm? for the E-50 Chassis with either turret or rear mounted options.

As these only existed as a concept drawing then the kits can be called fantasy tanks as no one can be sure what was going to go into production and so with these kits that come out the '46 Heer armour becomes a reality for the modeller. They are certainly popular as it lifts restrctions and inaccuracies over colours and allows the armour modeller to exercise some freedom!


This is what is in the kit!

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So! What is this kit exactly? It is a mix and march of the E-100 kit, the 128mm Flak and radar set (without the radar) and a new sprue for the shield and mount. Also included is some etch generic decals (I'll be replacing those with Archer Dry Transfers) and a metal barrel which replaces one of the 3 barrels included in the kit.... plenty choice. There are also some ammo examples too.

I will be replacing the kit tracks with the much beefier (and heavier) Friul E-100 set and the only thing that really bothers me is getting the suspension springs off the sprues in 1 piece.... I've had issues with this before which led to me scrapping a couple of Amusing hobby builds :x

The plastic is sharp and well detailed and I see no flash at all - but there again I wasn't looking for it. There is some nice rolls steel texturing on the front upper glacis and this will look good under paint. My choice for this build is a 3 tone European camo job with authentic colours from Vallejo and MRP using RAL 6003 as the base coat. I may, at a later date, build another with a '46 Afrika Korps camo scheme!


I do like the Amusing Hobby kits as they are not really technically demanding and build up nicely with some great and nice sharp detailing and with a careful colour accurate paint job look the part and provide some building fun where accuracy for the concept tanks is not an issue as it is with the current Panther and Tiger kits. They are not overpriced and a nice bit of step away fun and look good in the cabinet!


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Re: Amusing Hobby E-100 Waffentrager

Postby wingnut2 » Tue Mar 05, 2019 5:50 pm

Hi James, that is some behemoth of a tank :o I will be following this build with great interest.
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Re: Amusing Hobby E-100 Waffentrager

Postby steve131 » Thu Mar 07, 2019 8:12 pm

Very nice fair bit of plastic in there . Will enjoy this.
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Re: Amusing Hobby E-100 Waffentrager

Postby Mark » Fri Mar 08, 2019 2:13 pm

How does this compare to the Trumpeter version you built a while ago?

Interested to see what you think of the Fruil tracks compared to the kit parts. I have the kit too, and thought the kit supplied parts looked ok. Obviously the metal ones will hang better. A comparison would be great.
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Re: Amusing Hobby E-100 Waffentrager

Postby snapdragon » Sat Mar 09, 2019 11:37 am

You mean the Trumpeter STUG and E-100?

The size is the same and trumpeter haven't done this one and from memory they used the torsion bar suspension and not the correct one. I will have to revisit those kits and add their E-50/75 to my collection.

Amusing hobby are certainly good and well engineered kits and are bringing the hobby quite a few what if subjects. They have a Ferdinand/Elephant with full interior coming which promises to be very interesting as well as some interesting subjects. Take a look as their FB page!

I will do a comparison with the tracks for you. I always change the tracks and add a metal barrel if possible as it just adds that effect of more beefy heavy track and the smooth crisp barrel and muzzle brake.
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Re: Amusing Hobby E-100 Waffentrager

Postby snapdragon » Sat Mar 09, 2019 8:52 pm

A start has been made.

The lower hull has been built up and the base coat applied. Next are all the suspension pieces.

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As with these exterior only kits the build is quite quick. The painting slows you down. It would be easy to build the hull in 1 day but I am going to do a complete detailed paint job on this so I have to slow down and let the paint and primer cure!

For Mark, here's the track comparison.


Before I start, the kit tracks are two part affairs and I have to report that one part is MIA. Either it had been missed out of the kit and I missed it when I photographed the kit, or I took it out, forgot to photograph it and put it somewhere safe and forgot where I put it!

This does mean that half the tracks can't be compared, but still I think that the photos and what I have to say stands firm.


The E-100 tracks were 1 metre in width (1000mm) and had to provide the ground support and movement of this beast and so were thich and bulky. They were made out of a casting mix of magnesium and steel and so in the photos that show them they are quite dark.


This is the kit track that I have to hand. It is the link between the two treads. It is correct size for 1/35 but is very thin and the details are sharp

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In the Friul set, there are instructions

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Wire to make the pins

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lots of bits in 4 bags

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Here's the main track tread. This is scale correct for the original track width and is very beefy with sharp detail. It does match exactly the photos of the original tracks. I can't comment on the kit ones as they are the ones that are MIA.

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A jig in 3 pieces that you glue together

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Friul have this correct. It is the link section and it is in 3 pieces.

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When put against the Kit part you can see that the Friul one is much sturdier than the kit.

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Dry fit

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One of the ends for the link tread has holes in for the pins, the other end os blanked off so the pin can't slide throuogh and that's the one that goes on the outside when the tracks are attached. The treads are not handed.

Considering the size of the vehicle etc, the Friul ones provide a much better platform for the vehicle adding to the size of the thing and also with the weight of the white metal tracks will hang right with no manipulation or anything. The full track run would have been a couple of tons at least and the Friul ones will show that with ease! Half the kit ones are just too thin!


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Re: Amusing Hobby E-100 Waffentrager

Postby Morris » Sat Mar 09, 2019 9:12 pm

Got my popcorn and chair, James.....
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Re: Amusing Hobby E-100 Waffentrager

Postby Mark » Sun Mar 10, 2019 3:13 pm

Thanks James. To be honest, I wasn’t expecting to see much difference between the kit and Fruil tracks, but the Fruil ones are a big improvement. www.hobbyeasy.com are out of stock at the moment, so I’ll have to wait a bit.
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Re: Amusing Hobby E-100 Waffentrager

Postby snapdragon » Thu Mar 14, 2019 12:57 pm

Here's an update

Sometimes getting a look right takes just that bit of extra time and I am not sure just how much of the suspension will be seen so I decided that all the springs would be steel and also parts of the support structure while the rest would be the base coat RAL 6003

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Putting it together was very easy but you must not rush and check with the instructions. Understand everything and you will have a working suspension structure. On the inside I think there is a bit of overdone detail, but it does open up the possibility of getting Meng's Tiger II internal kit set and fitting the engine and drive system. It will require some scratch building and operating on the upper hull to make the most of it.

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That's all you really need to fix the suspension in place but AH go this far too...

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It is a very nice bit of extra detail and if you want to go down the adding the interior and scratching ffirewalls etc then it is a nice bit of extra, otherwise you don't really need those parts.


The upper hull has been built up and is ready for priming and base coat. I moved away from the instructions and added the front skirt just to do something a little different and add the size presence that these provide. It is a "What if" so you can "tart" it up a bit within reason. It only took an evening's work and a couple of episodes of The Curse of Oak Island.

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A dry fit onto the lower hull

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The spade recoil parts are ready for priming and basecoating

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Also a start of the wheels...

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Steel rims are a multi stage process and I will post my method. It is simple but time consuming but brings great results.

Comments, questions etc welcome and encoutaged



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Re: Amusing Hobby E-100 Waffentrager

Postby snapdragon » Fri Mar 22, 2019 5:36 pm

Here's how I do the metal wheel rims.

When it's a panther or Tiger I etc that had rubber rims I look to quickwheels for their wheel sets. they make painting those a doddle.

Metal rimmed steel wheels need that bit extra care and time.

This is my method

Prime all your wheels every side and rim etc.

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Make sure the primer is properly cured... I usually leave it a full day
Spray the steel on the rims. For this I used AK Xtreme metal steel.

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Once again, leave a full day to cure.

I know from personal experience that this stuff, despite what AK says, doesn't like being masked and you can very easily spoil the finish so I add a protective layer over the top of the steel paint. I turn my airbrush down to 14-15 PSI for this and add this stuff

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Despite the colour in the bottle it dries clear and goes on as such and it is quite difficult to see going on so a little guess work is needed to get a protective layer on. Once again leave a full day to cure properly
Mask your rims. I have used some very cheap 3 or 4mm masking tape that I bought as a trial. At this point I divide up and dry fit the wheels together so I know what I am painting next and the colour. It is wise to de tack the tape you are useing by sticking it to your hand first.

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A little bit of overlap of the tape is a good thing.

The inner wheel of the pair (both sides) and the inside of the outer wheel is painted in RAL 8012, Oxide red primer. This was standard painting for January 1945 onwards.

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Removal of the tape on the inside roadwheels show a metal rim.

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After painting the base coat of the exterior of the ourside wheels (I don't need to add camo on to them as it was rarely done and this is a "What If" build You pull off the tape around the rim

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Put the sets together with a little drop of glue and then I have a dry fit to make sure that everything looks right

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Now I can see what can be seen once the wheels are in place. and the extra work on the suspension springs etc was worth it in the end.
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The inner wheels are placed and fitted. Do this properly and take your time and they rotate!

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The outer wheels get the same treatment

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Added sprocket and idler wheel. The caps that fix them needed some work in the inside to enlarge for the peg to make them have a snug and tight fit so the sprocket and idler wheels didn't wobble.

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That's how I do my steel rimmed wheels. I am building the Friul tracks at the moment. 102 links per side! :o .
The technique is really simple, it is just the time involved as you have to let everything cure properly. With the tracks the time is putting them together. The painting is very simple and just involves Vallejo's Metal colour Magnesium and your airbrush!

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Re: Amusing Hobby E-100 Waffentrager

Postby snapdragon » Fri Apr 05, 2019 1:08 pm

Time for another update.

Friuls tracks took longer to put together than normal. I kept on loosing my concentration and also new stuff arriving for the stash was a distraction as well as stuff away from the bench!

Once assembled Friuls tracks were given just a coat of Vallejo Metal colour Steel. This is darker than Xtreme metal steel and is a good paint for the tracks of German panzers as they were a mix of magnesium and steel! Once ready they were fitted to the running gear and the upper hull fixed in place.

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The upper hull needs another base coat as I have noticed that some areas are not the full depth of RAL 6003.

Exhausts built

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Main gun, breech and mount built. Kit's included metal barrel used.

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spade recoil

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Gun mount lower built and primed

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Test fit

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Gun Shield upper built and primed and test fitted to base.

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more gun bits to be built and then the RAL 6003 gets a big bit of usage!
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Re: Amusing Hobby E-100 Waffentrager

Postby steve131 » Sun Apr 07, 2019 8:19 pm

8-) Great work ,mean looking vehicle.
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Re: Amusing Hobby E-100 Waffentrager

Postby Morris » Mon Apr 08, 2019 6:31 am

Masterclass, James :clap:
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Re: Amusing Hobby E-100 Waffentrager

Postby snapdragon » Thu Apr 11, 2019 6:34 pm

My Nephew has infected me with a cold, and because of my heart damage my immune system is not as good as it was, so for some time to come I am coughing, spluttering with a nose that runs faster than most sprinters etc and suffering quite badly! I hate when this happens as it takes the best side of a month now to throw these things off and recover properly.

very small whiskey and lemon/honey is being taken and paracetamol to try and suppress the symptoms.

All the gun parts and sections have been built and are slowly going through the paint shop for the primer and base coat. In fact, the primer is done and before I had to stop and rest today the base coat was almost finished.

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The gun mount base has been base coated and fixed to the chassis and the gun shield base coated and dry fitted. I should be able to finish the base coat tomorrow and also mask and paint the steel bits for the gun breech etc.

This means that over the weekend I should be able to assemble and mount the gun and then the camo can be done.
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Re: Amusing Hobby E-100 Waffentrager

Postby Morris » Thu Apr 11, 2019 8:22 pm

Nice work James - I hope you feel better! :clap:
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Re: Amusing Hobby E-100 Waffentrager

Postby steve131 » Thu Apr 11, 2019 10:20 pm

Great work Snaps ,hope your parade ground fit soon.
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Re: Amusing Hobby E-100 Waffentrager

Postby snapdragon » Sat Apr 13, 2019 1:51 pm

Dosed up on paracetamol, Whiskey, Lemon, Honey, hot water and Pussers Rum along with the normal complement of medication and apart from the occasional spatial awareness issue and cuddling up to next doors dog for a nap I have continued going as I want to get this out of the way and have a short break to get rid of this cold fully before launching into the Shinden.


I carefully masked parts and sprayed stainless steel onto the breech and hydraulic stuff.

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The idea is to get s reflective surface to a degree and I rarely use gloss back and here we have AK's Xtreme metal stainless steem onto a flat grey primer. It does shine and after a coat of their protectant does the job properly

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The Gun is then assembled

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This is their Flak 40 from their Flak 40 and radar kit. I would have thought that for the waffentrager it would have been a much simpler version and I am sure that stuff has been left off as ther are plenty parts left over, probably for the cruciform base.

Everything painted the base colour even inside the gun shield. Then added to the mount base

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THe shield is then fitted. It did fight back a bit, but I won..... I think.

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Once all the glue is cured etc I have some base coat issues to repaint and some odds and ends to add and then it is a camo job and Archer Dry Transfers. Final partsto fit are the exhaust
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Re: Amusing Hobby E-100 Waffentrager

Postby Mark » Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:02 pm

That gun looks complicated! Nice work James.

Is the Shinden going to be your BotY entry? It’d be a good choice.
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Re: Amusing Hobby E-100 Waffentrager

Postby snapdragon » Sun Apr 14, 2019 10:06 am

I think that with the Lancaster AM stuff being slow coming out (HGW still haven't put out their seatbelt stuff yet) that even if I get everything together it is going to be too much of a rush to get it done in time.

Considering what I have in my stash and what is coming out then I think that the Shinden is maybe not quite right, but RFM's cutaway Panther G or their Jagdpanther with interior would be good ones, also they have a Tiger I with clear turret etc coming.

I will go with the cutaway Panther as it is going to show some technical skills as the cutaway hull and turret are not even shown in the manual and I reckon it will look great when done. Also I have a metal barrel for it from Aber and Friul tracks so it is ready to start after the Shinden and I am already formulating plans!

Having to make a choice for just one entry is a shame really. Still, it is fun and that is the point!

Maybe the Lancaster for next year!!
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Re: Amusing Hobby E-100 Waffentrager

Postby Mark » Sun Apr 14, 2019 11:49 am

The Panther would be a great entry. Lots of potential for going outside the box, so to speak.
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